Counting to 85
- By msqueri
- The Farm Report
- 28 Replies
I'm probably a few weeks early on this but it's been gnawing at me not to have a better sense of roster construction so I thought I'd take a stab at counting to 85, both to clarify my own thinking and also to see if others who have better knowledge can correct/clarify things for me. My count:
1. Ziron Brown
2. Kahlil House
3. Hayden Gunter
4. Joe Asiain
5. Jacobi Murray
6. Connor Bachhuber
7. Bo Tate
8. Aiden Black
9. Benjamin Blackburn
10. Chris Davis
11. Micah Ford
12. Cole Tabb
13. Brandon Nicholson
14. Jaylen'Dai Sumlin
15. Darius Davis
16. Javion Randall
17. Chase Farrell
18. Benedict Umeh
19. Elijah Brown
20. Emmitt Mosley
21. Sam Mattingly
22. Dylan Stephenson
23. Cam Richardson
24. Chico Holt
25. Ahmari Borden
26. Myles Jackson
27. Jackson Harris
28. Gavin Geweniger
29. Tre Williams
30. Charlie Symonds
31. Ismael Cisse
32. Omar Staples
33. Caleb Hampton
34. Braden Marceau-Olayinka
35. Allen Thomason
36. Che Ojarikre
37. Aaron Morris
38. Tiger Bachmeier
39. JShawn Frausto-Ramos
40. Sedrick Irvin Jr.
41. Simione Pale
42. Luke Baklenko
43. Tevarua Tafiti
44. Zach Rowell
45. Jahsiah Galvan
46. Collin Wright
47. Jake Maikkula
48. Elic Ayomanor
49. Pat Caughey
50. Benjamin Hudson
51. Matt Rose
52. Scotty Edwards
53. Jaivion Green
54. Fisher Anderson
55. Ernest Cooper IV
56. David Bailey
57. Ashton Daniels
58. Sam Roush
59. Mudia Reuben
60. Wilfredo Aybar
61. Aaron Armitage
62. Justin Lamson
63. Austin Uke
64. Mitch Leigber
65. Shield Taylor
66. Ese Dubre
67. Jack Leyrer
68. Caleb Ellis
69. Ryan Butler
70. Brendon Barrow
71. Zach Buckey
72. Anthony Franklin
73. Connor Weselman
74. Jayson Raines
75. Jaden Slocum
76. Jimmy Wyrick
77. Gaethan Bernadel
78. Levi Rogers
79. Connor McLaughlin
80. Lukas Ungar
81. Tobin Phillips
82. Bryce Farrell
83. Omari Porter
84. Lance Keneley
85. Silas Starr
86. Trevor Mayberry
87. Zahran Manley
88. Tristan Sinclair
Wild cards I'd like more clarity on but am not counting at the moment:
Lucas Heyer
Joshua Thompson
CJ Hawkins
Still in transfer portal and could theoretically return:
Terian Williams
Ari Patu
Ben Yurosek
Bottom line
We need more news, at least beyond what I am aware of, to get to 85, and if any of the last six guys I mentioned are back it could be even tighter. It seems to me like Ungar, Porter, and Starr are at significant risk of being cut and may be sticking around in hopes of other attrition (e.g., somebody else medically retiring or transferring later this spring). If there are additional transfers that tightens the math further, but it seems pretty manageable. In addition to Ungar, Porter, and Starr there are a few cases of dead wood where one could imagine a medical retirement or otherwise being told there isn't space.
Looking ahead to 2025, I count 12 guys completing their eligibility this year, but that number goes down if we draw from that group for additional attrition as I expect. But in thinking about 2025 roster math, in addition to those scholarships freeing up we will have presumably the vast majority of the 60-76 group leave as well. Frankly, that group is obscenely weak for players entering their fourth year and it will be a major opportunity for us to get them off the roster and replace them with Taylor recruits. I reckon we can safely plan for nine old men scholarships opening plus, say, 11 of the miserable 2021 class before we even get to medical retirements, underclassmen backups transferring for opportunities, or NFL attrition. I think we can expect a 2025 class more or less the same size as our 2024 class.
In the big picture, the Taylor-Pehrson roster management will/should be focused on continuing the aggressive roster turnover and putting their own imprint on the roster. I view the 2024 roster as already a more efficient use of available scholarships and then 2025 could be the year we really see a roster improvement. There are caveats, such as individual parts of the pipeline getting weaker, but by and large what's important is that we cycle Shaw's guys out of the program and Taylor's guys in. Fifty-ish new players (inclusive of transfers) in two years will be a big step in that direction.
1. Ziron Brown
2. Kahlil House
3. Hayden Gunter
4. Joe Asiain
5. Jacobi Murray
6. Connor Bachhuber
7. Bo Tate
8. Aiden Black
9. Benjamin Blackburn
10. Chris Davis
11. Micah Ford
12. Cole Tabb
13. Brandon Nicholson
14. Jaylen'Dai Sumlin
15. Darius Davis
16. Javion Randall
17. Chase Farrell
18. Benedict Umeh
19. Elijah Brown
20. Emmitt Mosley
21. Sam Mattingly
22. Dylan Stephenson
23. Cam Richardson
24. Chico Holt
25. Ahmari Borden
26. Myles Jackson
27. Jackson Harris
28. Gavin Geweniger
29. Tre Williams
30. Charlie Symonds
31. Ismael Cisse
32. Omar Staples
33. Caleb Hampton
34. Braden Marceau-Olayinka
35. Allen Thomason
36. Che Ojarikre
37. Aaron Morris
38. Tiger Bachmeier
39. JShawn Frausto-Ramos
40. Sedrick Irvin Jr.
41. Simione Pale
42. Luke Baklenko
43. Tevarua Tafiti
44. Zach Rowell
45. Jahsiah Galvan
46. Collin Wright
47. Jake Maikkula
48. Elic Ayomanor
49. Pat Caughey
50. Benjamin Hudson
51. Matt Rose
52. Scotty Edwards
53. Jaivion Green
54. Fisher Anderson
55. Ernest Cooper IV
56. David Bailey
57. Ashton Daniels
58. Sam Roush
59. Mudia Reuben
60. Wilfredo Aybar
61. Aaron Armitage
62. Justin Lamson
63. Austin Uke
64. Mitch Leigber
65. Shield Taylor
66. Ese Dubre
67. Jack Leyrer
68. Caleb Ellis
69. Ryan Butler
70. Brendon Barrow
71. Zach Buckey
72. Anthony Franklin
73. Connor Weselman
74. Jayson Raines
75. Jaden Slocum
76. Jimmy Wyrick
77. Gaethan Bernadel
78. Levi Rogers
79. Connor McLaughlin
80. Lukas Ungar
81. Tobin Phillips
82. Bryce Farrell
83. Omari Porter
84. Lance Keneley
85. Silas Starr
86. Trevor Mayberry
87. Zahran Manley
88. Tristan Sinclair
Wild cards I'd like more clarity on but am not counting at the moment:
Lucas Heyer
Joshua Thompson
CJ Hawkins
Still in transfer portal and could theoretically return:
Terian Williams
Ari Patu
Ben Yurosek
Bottom line
We need more news, at least beyond what I am aware of, to get to 85, and if any of the last six guys I mentioned are back it could be even tighter. It seems to me like Ungar, Porter, and Starr are at significant risk of being cut and may be sticking around in hopes of other attrition (e.g., somebody else medically retiring or transferring later this spring). If there are additional transfers that tightens the math further, but it seems pretty manageable. In addition to Ungar, Porter, and Starr there are a few cases of dead wood where one could imagine a medical retirement or otherwise being told there isn't space.
Looking ahead to 2025, I count 12 guys completing their eligibility this year, but that number goes down if we draw from that group for additional attrition as I expect. But in thinking about 2025 roster math, in addition to those scholarships freeing up we will have presumably the vast majority of the 60-76 group leave as well. Frankly, that group is obscenely weak for players entering their fourth year and it will be a major opportunity for us to get them off the roster and replace them with Taylor recruits. I reckon we can safely plan for nine old men scholarships opening plus, say, 11 of the miserable 2021 class before we even get to medical retirements, underclassmen backups transferring for opportunities, or NFL attrition. I think we can expect a 2025 class more or less the same size as our 2024 class.
In the big picture, the Taylor-Pehrson roster management will/should be focused on continuing the aggressive roster turnover and putting their own imprint on the roster. I view the 2024 roster as already a more efficient use of available scholarships and then 2025 could be the year we really see a roster improvement. There are caveats, such as individual parts of the pipeline getting weaker, but by and large what's important is that we cycle Shaw's guys out of the program and Taylor's guys in. Fifty-ish new players (inclusive of transfers) in two years will be a big step in that direction.