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He Gone?

When will David Shaw no longer be HC of Stanford?

  • Within 24 hours after the BYU game

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • Within a week after the BYU game

    Votes: 11 16.9%
  • Before January 31, 2023

    Votes: 6 9.2%
  • Before next season, but after January

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • During or after the 2023 season

    Votes: 21 32.3%
  • During or after the 2024 season

    Votes: 6 9.2%
  • When he retires

    Votes: 17 26.2%

This is not about whether you think he should be gone or not, I think there would not be much dispute on that point. This is whether or not when, and if he is.

Thinking about USC, and the carousel they’ve had there, at least they kept trying, and eventually got it right. Better than not doing a damn thing.

Football BREAKING: E.J. Smith is out for the rest of the year

David Shaw just announced in the weekly press conference that E.J. Smith is out for the rest of the year. Brutal news. I'll add the link in the press conference thread, but just to draw extra attention to this. Shaw did not specify what the injury is. He said it's something that needs to get taken care of now. I'll see if I can find out what that is.

Sunday morning thoughts - Big Game

1. The most depressing part about yesterday's game was that blowing a big (by these two teams' standards) fourth quarter lead to lose a heart-breaker against our rival felt like dodging a bullet. Those who follow the program know that, for the complacent set, wins against Notre Dame and Cal would have ludicrously covered up a lot of sins. Now there's at least a chance that the accumulating embarrassments and futility might rattle those who matter. Please. This needs to stop. It's such an embarrassment to the university and disservice to the players, and there's no point to it. It isn't providing a good experience to student-athletes, building bonds of attachment for alumni to the university, making money, or advancing Stanford's reputation. It's a lose-lose-lose-lose proposition. This shouldn't be a hard call to move on and hopefully the mounting indignities make it happen. I know it's an uphill battle but we shouldn't lose sight of what a no brainer it is that Stanford needs to move on from Shaw, for everybody's benefit (even his, if he's unable to recognize that himself).

2. For somebody who grew up going to every Big Game and understands what a big event it can/should be for the Bay Area, yesterday was sad. The morning after Big Game, it is the fourth story on gostanford.com. I assure you we do not have more traffic or interest in cross country, volleyball, or water polo. We're rightfully humiliated by our football program and burying it. But Cal isn't much better. This was the first time since 2000 in which neither team had a chance of a bowl and the first time since 1998 both teams have losing records two years in a row. This was two of the worst Power Five teams in the country in a depressing pillow fight to see which team was more incompetent. Turned out it was us, but man Cal is bad. The game wasn't even televised on a real network. It was surreal this morning to check out the box score and see that even after the news of the last two weeks this game took place on "FTX Field." But maybe that's an appropriate symbol of the emptiness and fraudulence of these football programs. There was one and only one thing about this game that cut against the overwhelming irrelevance of it all: a good crowd. Good for those who went to the game and made noise, and I'm happy for the loyal Bear backers that their loyalty was rewarded with something to celebrate. Even then, the attendance serves as another stark reminder of just how bad Stanford is: this was the biggest crowd at Memorial Stadium in over nine years, since Ohio State came to town. Cal has had better teams in the last nine years. Why did the fans come out yesterday? It's obvious: they knew how bad Stanford is and smelled blood in the water. It says so much about Stanford's program that we can't bribe our fans to go to our home games and our opponents have to turn their fans away because we're the surest win around.

3. It drives home how bad we are that we lost by a touchdown to a 3-7 team even though we made a 61 yard field and the opponent did everything they could to hand the game to us. Much was made about Cal's turmoil on offense with the offensive coordinator and offensive line coach being fired and, sure enough, they were a hot mess on that side of the ball. Despite playing a Stanford team that is ok at defending the pass and atrocious at defending the run, Cal barely ran, giving Stanford an enormous gift. When they did pass, the individual players were what the French call les incompetents. The receivers dropped five passes. Most damaging, the quarterback threw not one but two interceptions in the end zone. Throwing balls up for grabs in the end zone is bad enough, but to do it on first down both times is unforgiveable. Cal deserved to lose purely because Plummer is such a moron, but fortunate for them they played a team that deserved to lose even more.

4. Man did we deserve to lose. The pivotal play of the game, of course, was Daniels' fumble leading to the scoop and score. For a team 130th (second to last, last in Power Five) in fumbles, we are well past the point of fluke on the horrid ball security. And for anybody who wants to pin the blame on Daniels particularly, yes, he's had extreme problems holding on to the ball, but who hasn't had appalling ball security? Filkins and Smith were both leading running backs nationally in fumbles when they went down. Worst of all is our new return specialist Thompson, who if my calculations are right muffs the ball about once every six times he touches it. This is so obviously pandemic across the team that I have no patience for anybody who wants to pin this on the true freshman QB3 who has been one of the best parts of our run game this sad season. Stanford can't hold on to the ball, period. There may be anti-Gould explanations for this (and lord knows I think his resume at Stanford is awful and he has no claim to deserving to keep his job) but even more than that I think it's a psychologically battered, un-confident, un-focused, joyless team. It's really just a symptom of the system-wise catastrophic failure of the whole operation.

5. The real point vis-a-vis Big Game, though, is that you don't lose because of one play. As McKee said in his interview this week, the takeaway for the team on the 40th anniversary of The Play is "don't put the game in other people's hands." A game against a bad opponent shouldn't come down to an error by a third string freshman. The reality is these kinds of errors kill us because we're comprehensively terrible and thus always in a position where mistakes mortally wound us. As we all know, top of the list is the hopeless Shawfense. The latest tragicomic observation: this was actually Stanford's second best offensive performance of the last eight games and, adjusted for quality of opponent defense, arguably our second best offensive game of the season, behind only the Oregon State game. That's another poignant reminder that even our ceiling under Shawfense is bad. Good for us still equaled the worst non-Colorado performance against Cal in their last eight games. We had our most points in six games and it was still a touchdown worse than Cal's average on the season. Our 1.33 points per drive made the #97 defensive points per drive defense look like the #7 points per drive defense. Every game is just a continuing avalanche of evidence we have one of the worst offenses in the country.

Semi-OT: Ed McCaffrey

Out at Northern Colorado after going 6-16 in 2 seasons.


Darling son Dylan, whom I recall some complained we didn't recruit despite being in the same class as literal #1 QB recruit in the country Davis Mills, transferred there from Michigan because 1. he was not a good quarterback and 2. of course he was gonna start for his dad. He indeed started for his dad at Northern Colorado for the past 2 years and has thrown 17 TDs to 19 INTs in his 20 starts.

Football 125th Big Game Hub

I'm not doing a preview for today as my whole philosophical essay on the knee being down served as that purpose. That was my preview. Read that here if you haven't already.


And then get your predictions in here if you have not already done so. I'm on my way up to Berkeley. Should be an interesting game to say the least.


MBB: Outgoing Transfer Updates

Thought it would be fun to update on our former players' exploits at their new schools. Looks like most have found their level and are starters for their respective teams.

Jaiden Delaire (San Diego): Started both games against Sonoma State and Florida Gulf Coast (who beat USC), has more total rebounds (16) than points (12), 0% 3pt and 50% FTs. So far it looks like "good Jaiden" hasn't made an appearance, though we know it could.

Lukas Kisunas (Denver): Started both games against Idaho and Colorado College, and had a hell of a game (18 pts, 6 rebs, 1 block) against Colorado College.

Noah Taitz (LMU): Out indefinitely with a calf injury. Was projected to start.

Keenan Fitzmorris (Stony Brook): Started both games against Florida and Miami-Hamilton. Had 6 points and 2 rebounds against Florida. Had 10 points and 6 rebounds against Miami-Hamilton. I never thought I'd be typing the words "Keenan Fitzmorris," "started against Florida," and "had 10 points" (no matter the game) all in the same recap.

Sam Beskind (Colorado School of Mines): Started both games against St. Mary's (TX, not the good one) and Lubbock Christian, and had a hell of a game (16 pts, 6 assists, 4 rebs, 2 steals) against Lubbock Christian.

Full House

Many, like me, must have been noticed that an almost full Memorial Stadium generated much excitement for the Big Game. You may have been watching other football games, such as Michigan versus Illinois, where the stadiums were also packed.

In a few minutes, at Maples, you can see in person or on ABC another almost full house when South Carolina WBB meets Stanford. I can't predict the outcome of a #1 versus a #2, but hope the crowd gives Stanford an edge.

Fan support does change the nature of a game. I can understand why high school athletes might reject Stanford's comparatively empty football and men's basketball venues.

David

A Victory for LW

This loss may further the cause of LW and though I rooted all the way for our guys, I won't be sad if cal's victory leads to firing Shaw.

1. Except for opening drives each half, poor offensive management.

2. What a great call to put Daniels in with him obviously running leading to the fumble that cost us the game.

3. Shaw conservative all the way.

4. Sorry but McKee has no pro future. He's just not very good. Too many errant passes, doesn't spot open receivers, poor runner, and my gawd, he is as bad as can be in the pocket - 4th worst in the country at sacks - most on him.

P.S. - horrible officiating - both ways

P.S.S. - hated the cal colored telecast; also another Bernstein jinx

I have changed, and it is Shaw's fault

Having grown up here and having gone to football games for 50-odd years, the fact that I am skipping the game tomorrow is hard for me to process. I have been a fanatic. I was raised on the lore of the Big Game...the last minute plays...the argy-bargy among the students, the pranks and all of the fanfare during the week that led up to the game. As an aside, what ever became of the Bond Club and Guardsmen's lunches, etc.

I think in my lifetime, I have missed a total of three games, all of which were in Berkeley. One, mercifully, was 1982, where I was on a bus to Cloverdale for a HS football playoff game. John Paye was our QB and it was his senior season. One was due to having to fly out for a work fire drill, and the last was the fire year where the game was moved back and I had left town by then. Only three. I have sat thru the rain, was there for the revenge of the Play, watching Luck truck that DB and for all sort of other misadventures.

In school, I built bonfires, was an AxeComm guy and can't remember how I got home from a rally in the City. Big Game was special, even when we were not good. It was part of the culture and the fabric of being in the Bay Area, a native and someone fortunate enough to wear a "We got in" button with pride and enmity for all things weenie. Losing sucked and meant that I'd never hear the end of it from the sore winners.

Tomorrow, I will be at home, happy to have a Saturday and not devoting the whole day to the schlep to the Peoples' Republic. I will watch the game, but maybe on DVR rather than live to save time. My best friend and seat mate lives within walking distance of Memorial Stadium. He's bailing, too. I have nothing vested in the game other than a perverse hope that any loss will be ugly to add to whatever pressure there might be on the naked emperor. I feel dirty that a win might work against the best interests of the program. I will probably skip BYU as well.

I used to plan my fall around football. My wife let me skip our wedding rehearsal so I could go to a season opener against SJSU. Having been married before and reasonably good at walking in a straight line, I convinced her that I did not need to be there. She acquiesced. A keeper, not doubt.

Now, like most of you, there is no joy. There is no fun. To call it ambivalence might imply that there could be feelings one way or another. And I hate it. It is your fault, David. Yours alone with an assist from Mr. McGoo, the athletic director. You've sucked the life out of something that was dear to me. It could be a generation before the pendulum swings, and time is not on my side.

Thanks a (six) million Dave. You're the gift that keeps on giving when others might have followed the Samurai code and resigned to preserve honor.

Someone let me know if Top Dog is still open and good.
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